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Poster: BobNicholson Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:59pm
Forum: texts Subject: Out of copyright book scanned in British library - ok to upload?

Hi,

I recently scanned an out of copyright book at the British library's St. Pancras reading rooms. I had the permission of the manager, who was satisfied that the book was completely out of copyright.

It's an extremely rare text (only one copy in UK libraries and none online) and I'd like to upload the book to the internet archive. However, I'd like to make sure that I have the necessary permissions to do so first. As I understand it, this shouldn't be a problem - the book was published in 1892 and the author, W. T. Stead, died in 1912 on the Titanic. However, the scan has a British library watermark on each page, and the guidelines on their website suggest that items should not be recopied. Does this change the situation? I'm probably being over cautious, but can somebody confirm that I'm in the clear?

Cheers,
Bob.

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Poster: Summus Aristoteles Date: Jul 26, 2010 2:43am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Out of copyright book scanned in British library - ok to upload?

I don't know if it is legal to remove watermark

if it is, you can try with inpainting technique used by

*greycstoration*
- http://web.archive.org/web/20080501214044/http://cimg.sourceforge.net/greycstoration/

see here: (look for image inpaiting and you will see how powerful can be this software in removing objects from scans and images)
http://web.archive.org/web/20080512104634/cimg.sourceforge.net/greycstoration/demonstration.shtml

greycstoration has been now replaced by gimp plu-in I don't it has image inpainting abilities, any way, you can download greycstoration original from here:
http://www.divshare.com/download/12104868-af1

it is very sad to see the behavior of British Library; while other libraries (like gallica) scan books and make available online for free, British Library only thinks to money and has not yet an own online book collection, so

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Jul 26, 2010 4:59am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Out of copyright book scanned in British library - ok to upload?

A similar discussion on watermarks was discussed in feature films forum, saying that it is legal to remove the watermark on some videos. The book is not copyrighted, so a long it PD its OK.

thanks for the suggest software

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Poster: Summus Aristoteles Date: Jul 26, 2010 5:26am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Out of copyright book scanned in British library - ok to upload?

I assume these watermarks are placed directly on images (and raster), if watermarks are vector text (for instance a watermark on all pages in a pdf that serves as container for images) then another tecnique can be used to remove

- take the pdf
- uncompress streams inside (this can be done with pdftk for example:

pdftk input.pdf output uncompressed.pdf uncompress

- now we are looking for text string of watermark (if watermark display "British Library", we will search for "British Library")

this can be done (without directly open the uncompressed pdf) with an editor like sed (in windows and linux both)

sed -e "s/watemark text/ /g" unwatermarked.pdf

now we re-compress the resulting pdf (with pdftk)

pdftk unwatermarked.pdf output compressed.pdf compress

in order to rebuild the XREF table another step is optionally performed

pdftk compressed.pdf output compressedfixed.pdf

if Bob can give us further details can help better

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Poster: garthus Date: Jul 22, 2010 8:54pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Out of copyright book scanned in British library - ok to upload?

The book can be uploaded regardless of the watermarks; in the US before 1924 is in the public domain.

Gerry

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Poster: prosfilaes Date: Jul 26, 2010 10:31am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Out of copyright book scanned in British library - ok to upload?

It's before 1923; works first published in 1923 were still in their 75th year of protection when the Mickey Mouse Copyright Protection Act extended copyright on everything still under copyright.